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#1 alanancy

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 08:54 AM

How can I stop Spell Checker from automatically capitalizing a password.

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 09:02 PM

View Postalanancy, on 20 June 2010 - 08:54 AM, said:

How can I stop Spell Checker from automatically capitalizing a password.
Shouldn't happen with Spell Catcher X 10.3.5 or later.

Therefore:

What version of Spell Catcher X are you using?
What version of Mac OS X?

EXACT steps to reproduce. What application(s) do you see this in, and what are their versions?

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Posted 21 June 2010 - 12:58 PM

Spell Catcher X is Version 10.3.6
Mac OS X is Version 10.6.4

I can't make it not capitalize the first letter of sentence whether it is
A password or just typing in this response. Notice the "a" at the beginning of this sentence.

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 03:22 PM

View Postalanancy, on 21 June 2010 - 12:58 PM, said:

Spell Catcher X is Version 10.3.6
Mac OS X is Version 10.6.4

I can't make it not capitalize the first letter of sentence whether it is
A password or just typing in this response. Notice the "a" at the beginning of this sentence.


It sounds too simple but: Are you sure that you have "Capitalise the first word of a sentence" in the Interactive -> Automatic preferences disabled?

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Posted 22 June 2010 - 08:32 PM

View Postalanancy, on 21 June 2010 - 12:58 PM, said:

Spell Catcher X is Version 10.3.6
Mac OS X is Version 10.6.4

I can't make it not capitalize the first letter of sentence whether it is
A password or just typing in this response. Notice the "a" at the beginning of this sentence.
Now I'm confused. First you ask how to prevent a password from being capitalized, now you want it to be?

Can you clarify what the real problem is here?

#6 alanancy

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:52 PM

View PostEvan Gross, on 22 June 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

Now I'm confused. First you ask how to prevent a password from being capitalized, now you want it to be?

Can you clarify what the real problem is here?

I can't make it not capitalize the first letter of sentence whether it is
A password or just typing in this response. Notice the "a" at the beginning of this sentence.

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 12:02 AM

View Postalanancy, on 23 June 2010 - 10:52 PM, said:

I can't make it not capitalize the first letter of sentence whether it is
A password or just typing in this response. Notice the "a" at the beginning of this sentence.
The thing is, Spell Catcher won't consider that a word begins a sentence if it follows a return character unless the word before it ends with a period, exclamation mark, or question mark. So it won't automatically capitalize it. In your example, the word "a" following "is<return>" would not be considered to begin a sentence, and therefore Spell Catcher wouldn't automatically capitalize it.

That said, there may be other reasons it would change an "a" to "A", maybe that's what's actually happening?

Can you see if it still happens if you deactivate Spell Catcher’s input method by choosing a keyboard (flag icon) from the Input menu (yellow checkmark)?

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 11:04 PM

View PostEvan Gross, on 24 June 2010 - 12:02 AM, said:

The thing is, Spell Catcher won't consider that a word begins a sentence if it follows a return character unless the word before it ends with a period, exclamation mark, or question mark. So it won't automatically capitalize it. In your example, the word "a" following "is<return>" would not be considered to begin a sentence, and therefore Spell Catcher wouldn't automatically capitalize it.

That said, there may be other reasons it would change an "a" to "A", maybe that's what's actually happening?

Can you see if it still happens if you deactivate Spell Catcher’s input method by choosing a keyboard (flag icon) from the Input menu (yellow checkmark)?

I am not sure what you are asking me to do (keyboard (flag icon?) but
Here is a line that I used the <return> and it still automatically capitalized the "h".

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 11:21 PM

View Postalanancy, on 24 June 2010 - 11:04 PM, said:

I am not sure what you are asking me to do (keyboard (flag icon?) but
Here is a line that I used the <return> and it still automatically capitalized the "h".
Again, that's not going to be considered a missing capital error, since the word before "Here" is not a definitive end-of-sentence.

What I'm asking you to do is deactivate Spell Catcher’s input method just to quickly test whether or not Spell Catcher is involved here. Pull down the Input menu (the yellow checkmark in the menu bar) and choose your keyboard (a flag icon, the U.S. flag perhaps).

Try to reproduce the problem persists once you do that. If you still see it happen, then something else is going on - not involving Spell Catcher.

To reactivate Spell Catcher, pull down the Input menu (now the flag icon), then choose Spell Catcher.

Do you see this happen in ALL applications?
Do you have some other utility that looks at what you're typing, like TypeIt4Me or TextExpander or the like?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 01:01 PM

View PostEvan Gross, on 24 June 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:

Again, that's not going to be considered a missing capital error, since the word before "Here" is not a definitive end-of-sentence.
Evan, what I *think* he's saying is that Spell Catcher (or some other program) is automatically taking the lower case letter and capatalizing it even when there is *not* a period at the end of a sentence.

At least that is what I am getting.
Tom

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 05:30 PM

View Posttbailey, on 25 June 2010 - 01:01 PM, said:

Evan, what I *think* he's saying is that Spell Catcher (or some other program) is automatically taking the lower case letter and capatalizing it even when there is *not* a period at the end of a sentence.

At least that is what I am getting.
Tom
Well, easy to tell whether it's Spell Catcher or not - just choose a keyboard (flag icon) from the Input menu (yellow checkmark) and see if it still happens.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 11:04 PM

Thanks everybody!!
It was TextExpander that was causing the problem!!