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[Allen Watson]

With Lion rumored to be coming out next Thursday, will Spell Catcher be compatible? If not, when can we expect compatibility?

[Evan Gross]

Allen Watson, on 09 July 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

With Lion rumored to be coming out next Thursday, will Spell Catcher be compatible? If not, when can we expect compatibility?

All I can say is that Spell Catcher X 10.4 has been undergoing testing and development with Lion developer builds for many months now, and should work fine.

Earlier versions of Spell Catcher X aren't totally compatible with Lion, as numerous changes were made to the way the Input menu works (for all input methods). These changes were (of course) dealt with in Spell Catcher X 10.4.

[MediaBaron]

There seems to be a problem with my Spell Catcher 10.4 user shortcuts using Lion (Mac OS 10.7) and Safari 5.1 in that it does not output anything, in fact the shortcut disappears and there's no output.

Shortcuts appear to work fine in Google Chrome and they worked fine on Snow Leopard and Safari 5.1 so it's something going on with Lion and Safari.

*UPDATE*

It appears that the problem is using Mac OSX 10.7 (Lion), Safari 5.1 and WordPress. When trying to use shortcuts in WordPress (I'm using 3.2.1) the shortcut text doesn't output.

*UPDATE #2*

The problem looks like it's related to WordPress saving Drafts. Apparently with Lion and Safari 5.1 you can still work on the post page even though it's auto-saving a draft. Snow Leopard and Safari would just kind of lock-up when autosave occurs so you couldn't even type-in the shortcut. I'll report back if I see any other issues.

[William McCormick]

Evan Gross, on 09 July 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

All I can say is that Spell Catcher X 10.4 has been undergoing testing and development with Lion developer builds for many months now, and should work fine.

Earlier versions of Spell Catcher X aren't totally compatible with Lion, as numerous changes were made to the way the Input menu works (for all input methods). These changes were (of course) dealt with in Spell Catcher X 10.4.

Spell Catcher is roaring with lion.

I did notice that if the program keyque was loaded at startup or login before Spell Cather, Spell Catcher for what ever reason did not load. When I reversed the order and made SpellCatcher first, SpellCatcher loaded up as expected, on startup.


I did notice that if you are using the TAB key, in the shorthand EXPANSION, that it causes the cursor to leave or jump out of some windows in the browser while working in Safari. You just have to use spaces instead of TAB. But otherwise SpellCatcher and its shorthand functions are working well so far.




Evan is there some way to load the shorthand menu without having a word highlighted and copied?

Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Evan Gross]

William McCormick, on 29 July 2011 - 08:25 PM, said:

Spell Catcher is roaring with lion.

I did notice that if the program keyque was loaded at startup or login before Spell Cather, Spell Catcher for what ever reason did not load. When I reversed the order and made SpellCatcher first, SpellCatcher loaded up as expected, on startup.

Haven't heard of this before. There's generally no need to have Spell Catcher in your Login Items - it will automatically get launched as needed by the Mac OS itself. And it's very odd that order would matter, as (especially on Lion) the order is not generally predictable.

Is this 100% reproducible? What if you just remove Spell Catcher from your Login Items?

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I did notice that if you are using the TAB key, in the shorthand EXPANSION, that it causes the cursor to leave or jump out of some windows in the browser while working in Safari. You just have to use spaces instead of TAB. But otherwise SpellCatcher and its shorthand functions are working well so far.

Can you give me a concrete example? Tabs in expansions are designed to behave exactly as if you typed them, so it sounds like it's all working as-designed. What is the exact problem you're seeing with this?

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Evan is there some way to load the shorthand menu without having a word highlighted and copied?

I don't "get" what you're asking here. What are you referring to as the "shorthand menu"? Again, give me a concrete example. Include steps to reproduce, and include screen shots if necessary. Expanding shorthands doesn't cause words to be highlighted or copied.

[William McCormick]

Yes the bug is repeatable, I tried putting keyque first, and when you go to replace words with SpellCatcher, keyque pops up, instead of SpellCatcher just replacing the word. Reverse the order in the login and it works lovely.


You are absolutely right about the tab key in shorthand, SpellCatcher is working just fine. I thought that if someone was having trouble with a shorthand in a browser, that it could be the tab key used in a shorthand. I know it had me stumped for a while.


When you right click the Spell Catcher menu and look to modify the shorthand editor , the shorthand editor only opens if you have something copied in the clipboard. I just thought an open shorthand editor choice would be cool.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Evan Gross]

William McCormick, on 03 August 2011 - 06:55 AM, said:

When you right click the Spell Catcher menu and look to modify the shorthand editor , the shorthand editor only opens if you have something copied in the clipboard. I just thought an open shorthand editor choice would be cool.

William McCormick

I don't "get you" here. Right click on what menu? Can you elaborate on what it is you're trying to accomplish?

[William McCormick]

Evan Gross, on 03 August 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

I don't "get you" here. Right click on what menu? Can you elaborate on what it is you're trying to accomplish?

The spell catcher menu.

I go to the SpellCatcher menu and click the shorthand choice and I cannot open the editor unless, I have something in the clipboard.

Many times I just wish to add shorthands manually in the shorthand editor. To see which ones I have already.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

[Evan Gross]

William McCormick, on 03 August 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

The spell catcher menu.

I go to the SpellCatcher menu and click the shorthand choice and I cannot open the editor unless, I have something in the clipboard.

Many times I just wish to add shorthands manually in the shorthand editor. To see which ones I have already.


Sincerely,


William McCormick

You mean the Input menu (yellow checkmark)?
You mean the New Shorthand for Selection command?

Post a screenshot along with steps to reproduce.

[juliusl2]

Mr. Gross:

Thought you would like to be informed that I finally succeeded in having my Spell Catcher 10.4’s input method load in Apple OS 10.7.

Spell Catcher’s yellow arrow (64-bit) now appears in my Language and Text menu. The solution was simply a re-installation of Lion. Evidently, I encountered a problem with Apple’s download of Lion from Apple Store. My first download was not a complete download of the new operating system, a problem ultimately resolved by the re-installation via Apple’s Recovery Disk Assistant.

You may recall communicating with me (Julius Lee) intermittently via email regarding the input issue.

Julius Lee

[jackl73]

Euan,

I am finding SC is far more unstable in Lion than before, causing crashes in Mail, and other programmes as well as the continuing problems with Scrivener.

Is there any obvious setting I should change/remove in SC?

I use SC all the time, so this is a real pain.

Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks and regards, Jack

[Evan Gross]

jackl73, on 30 September 2011 - 07:00 AM, said:

Euan,

I am finding SC is far more unstable in Lion than before, causing crashes in Mail, and other programmes as well as the continuing problems with Scrivener.

Is there any obvious setting I should change/remove in SC?

I use SC all the time, so this is a real pain.

Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks and regards, Jack

When you say "than before," do you mean than Snow Leopard? Or do you mean you're seeing (new) problems on Lion itself?

Make sure that in Mail, Safari, and any other apps that use WebKit for editing text (I know, hard to tell at a glance, but there a few), make sure you disable (turn off, deselect) Check Spelling While Typing (in Edit > Spelling and Grammar…). In Mail you would generally set When to check spelling to "Never" in the Composing pane of Mail's Preferences window.

This avoids a known bug in WebKit's support for the Mac OS X system-wide spell checker. Shouldn't be a big deal, as you would be using Spell Catcher to check while typing anyway.

I've never been able to reproduce any of the problems that have been reported with Scrivener. Can you give me more details?

Also, tell me what the "other programmes as well" specifically are. Include versions, and steps to reproduce.

[jackl73]

jackl73, on 30 September 2011 - 07:00 AM, said:

Euan,

I am finding SC is far more unstable in Lion than before, causing crashes in Mail, and other programmes as well as the continuing problems with Scrivener.

Is there any obvious setting I should change/remove in SC?

I use SC all the time, so this is a real pain.

Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks and regards, Jack

Euan,

I had Check Spelling while you type ticked in both Mail and Safari. that should improve things. I suspect they were changed somehow when I moved to Lion and so things just seemed worse generally.

Scrivener: I know you cannot replicate any of the problems, but for me and may Scrivener users they do exist. BUT just checked the Preferences in Scrivener and ..... Check Spelling while typing was ticked.

Hopefully that has solved ALL MY PROBLEMS.

Thanks as always for SC and your help. Regards, Jack

[RichK]

Using Mail, under Lion, the first letter of the first sentence of a message does not auto-capitalize. For the next sentence it does. If I insert a period as the first entry in an email, then the next entries will auto-capitalize.

Any suggestions? I’ve tried turning off spelling correction in Mail/Prefernces without change. Also note that correction in this message is variablle.

Thnx

Rich

[Evan Gross]

RichK, on 09 October 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

Using Mail, under Lion, the first letter of the first sentence of a message does not auto-capitalize. For the next sentence it does. If I insert a period as the first entry in an email, then the next entries will auto-capitalize.

Any suggestions? I’ve tried turning off spelling correction in Mail/Prefernces without change. Also note that correction in this message is variablle.

Thnx

Rich

Unless Spell Catcher "sees" a sentence terminating punctuation character just typed, it does not know for certain that the next word should begin a sentence.

Try using DirectCorrect, along with the "New Paragraphs and lines should always be considered to begin a sentence" preference (Spell Catcher Preferences, Spelling pane, Check Selection tab). It might work better for you.