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#1 MRubenzahl

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:09 PM

A few days ago, Eudora started crashing whenever Spell Catcher was on. Crashes frequently, often as soon as Eudora starts. Eudora runs fine with SC off (either quit SC app or switch to Flag keyboard icon). Only Eudora crashes -- nothing else. I replaced various Eudora prefs, no help.

Same setup, as far as I remember, as it had been for many months previously.

I since upgraded to SC 10.4, no effect.

I think something got buggered in the SC config/pref files but not sure what. Any clues, hints?

OS X 10.6.8; SC 10.4; Eudora 6.2.4

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:44 PM

View PostMRubenzahl, on 04 October 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

A few days ago, Eudora started crashing whenever Spell Catcher was on. Crashes frequently, often as soon as Eudora starts. Eudora runs fine with SC off (either quit SC app or switch to Flag keyboard icon). Only Eudora crashes -- nothing else. I replaced various Eudora prefs, no help.

Same setup, as far as I remember, as it had been for many months previously.

I since upgraded to SC 10.4, no effect.

I think something got buggered in the SC config/pref files but not sure what. Any clues, hints?

OS X 10.6.8; SC 10.4; Eudora 6.2.4
I hear that the cause might be a recent Mac OS X security update.

Time to get off of Eudora. It's history.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:39 PM

Eudora is ancient but still the most efficient system for handling large amounts of e-mail. I have tried several alternatives but still, will have to kill it eventually.

With regard to the current issue, I don't think it's the system update. No issue on another Mac. One the affected machine, Eudora crashes reliably with SC on; it never crashes with SC off. There is something buggered up between the two.

Any suggestions as to pref files I should restore from backup first?

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:18 PM

View PostMRubenzahl, on 05 October 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

Eudora is ancient but still the most efficient system for handling large amounts of e-mail. I have tried several alternatives but still, will have to kill it eventually.

With regard to the current issue, I don't think it's the system update. No issue on another Mac. One the affected machine, Eudora crashes reliably with SC on; it never crashes with SC off. There is something buggered up between the two.

Any suggestions as to pref files I should restore from backup first?
First off, send me the crash logs for Eudora. Email them to our feedback address, use Help > Send Feedback by E-mail in the Spell Catcher application. Send the actual files that are in your home ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter folder. If there are more than one for Eudora, zip them up and send the archive.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:46 PM

OS10.6.8
2010 iMac 3.2GHz Intel Core i3


Another diehard Eudora user here. Each time I abandon it and try to get by with something else (Mail, Thunderbird, the open-source Eudora, etc, etc) I reach a point of frustration so bad it pushes me back into using creaky old, wonderful Eudora.

I started having Eudora issues a few days ago (I believe I did a Security Update a few days ago as well; I don't keep a log and am uninspired/inept to look on my Mac's logs), but as far as I could tell, it had nothing to do with Spell Catcher. Very bizarre behavior, messages popping up saying my message couldn't be saved, then after I clicked "OK" twice, it would close and the thing would go through).

This afternoon I moved the Eudora folder out of Documents, deleted the Eudora application folder from Applications, and deleted all the Eudora user files (p-lists, preferences, whatever the heck they all were) out of my personal Library.

Installed a fresh copy of Eudora and slowly started reinstating components: settings, address books, filters, mailboxes (this is one reason I love Eudora; so much of it is TANGIBLE and TRANSPARENT!), and so far have had no more odd behavior. Fingers crossed.

I only came to the forum today looking for a fix for Spell Catcher/Firefox incompatibility. Shorthands weren’t expanding, and I'd have to actually hold Shift down after typing an 'i' to make the spacebar work. But while typing this post (in Firefox) I unthinkingly tried to use a shorthand, and it worked! They're back, Spell Catcher is back for Firefox. I just opened other blank browsers and typed in them, and all is well.

I didn't start this post with that intention, but I am now adding my name to the list of people who have experienced some technical difficulty involving the Mac OS, Spell Catcher, and Eudora, and I'm muddying the water by throwing Firefox into the list.

Sorry; I'm really bad at being succinct.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:13 PM

to add a bit more information to my previous post: I can't remember/didn't notice, but it's very likely the Firefox/SCX problems began at the same time as the Eudora problems.

And to clarify, both sets of problems seem to have been cured by my reinstalling Eudora (and deleting Eudora preferences files and such from the Library, but not trashing my Eudora settings from the Eudora folder in Documents. FWIW, I DID start to configure settings manually before reinstating the folder.)

Hope this helps someone.

Just looked it up: I installed Security Update 2011-006 1.0 on 10/12/11.

and checking today's system log, FWIW, almost every entry begins with a line about Spell Catcher.component (a lot of them include Eudora). Here's the first few:

Recent Contents: Oct 18 00:30:00 Bens27iMac newsyslog[591]: logfile turned over
Oct 18 00:33:03 Bens27iMac Eudora[142]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 00:44:53 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:45:39 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:47:00 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:47:30: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Oct 18 00:47:58 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:48:28 Bens27iMac Safari[462]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:48:54 Bens27iMac WebProcess[464]: Periodic CFURLCache Insert stats (iters: 389) - Tx time:0.008528, # of Inserts: 5, # of bytes written: 117672, Did shrink: NO, Size of cache-file: 56240128, Num of Failures: 0
Oct 18 00:51:31 Bens27iMac Safari[462]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n



and the last several:


Oct 18 19:17:02 Bens27iMac firefox[159]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 19:17:10 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: NSDocumentController Info.plist warning: The values of CFBundleTypeRole entries must be 'Editor', 'Viewer', 'None', or 'Shell'.
Oct 18 19:17:12: --- last message repeated 13 times ---
Oct 18 19:17:12 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f4cf0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225e5530 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f5af0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f58b0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f6c40 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f4d80 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f5900 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225e55a0 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225ead00 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f39d0 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225eb1e0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f4d30 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225e51f0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f52e0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f1100 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f8280 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f1900 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x23816410 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f8310 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x23812f60 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f5bc0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f1610 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:11 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x2380fe60 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:18:21 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 19:18:22: --- last message repeated 1 time ---

<redacted>

n’t be completed. (DAVErrorDomain error 2.)")
Oct 18 19:47:17 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:42 PM

View Postbengreens, on 18 October 2011 - 10:13 PM, said:

to add a bit more information to my previous post: I can't remember/didn't notice, but it's very likely the Firefox/SCX problems began at the same time as the Eudora problems.

And to clarify, both sets of problems seem to have been cured by my reinstalling Eudora (and deleting Eudora preferences files and such from the Library, but not trashing my Eudora settings from the Eudora folder in Documents. FWIW, I DID start to configure settings manually before reinstating the folder.)

Hope this helps someone.

Just looked it up: I installed Security Update 2011-006 1.0 on 10/12/11.

Does that date coincide with what you've been (started) seeing?

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and checking today's system log, FWIW, almost every entry begins with a line about Spell Catcher.component (a lot of them include Eudora). Here's the first few:

Recent Contents: Oct 18 00:30:00 Bens27iMac newsyslog[591]: logfile turned over
Oct 18 00:33:03 Bens27iMac Eudora[142]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 00:44:53 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:45:39 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 00:47:00 Bens27iMac Calculator[538]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper

These messages are harmless - they're being output probably because you've got your Spell Catcher Interactive preferences for Eudora set to "Use input method component in this application where possible" (recommended for Eudora and a few other apps). The Mac OS will output this basic message whenever you switch from an app that's using Spell Catcher’s input method component to an app that can't load it (i.e. a 64-bit app). Not very useful info, and in this case, harmless.

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and the last several:


Oct 18 19:17:02 Bens27iMac firefox[159]: Error loading /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: dlopen(/Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:\n /Users/ben/Library/Components/Spell Catcher.component/Contents/MacOS/Spell Catcher: no matching architecture in universal wrapper
Oct 18 19:17:10 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: NSDocumentController Info.plist warning: The values of CFBundleTypeRole entries must be 'Editor', 'Viewer', 'None', or 'Shell'.
Oct 18 19:17:12: --- last message repeated 13 times ---
Oct 18 19:17:12 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f4cf0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225e5530 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f5af0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f58b0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f6c40 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f4d80 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f5900 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225e55a0 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225ead00 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225f39d0 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Oct 18 19:17:46 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x225eb1e0 of class NSConcreteMutableData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking

These messages regarding __NSAutoreleaseNoPool() and objects leaking are not quite so harmless. They indicate an error in Eudora, and that it's consuming RAM where it shouldn't be. Likely yet another Eudora problem related to its "ancient-ness". I doubt they would cause any immediate grief, but over time could be a problem.

The first one about "NSDocumentController Info.plist warning" is also an indication of Eudora's age/non-compliance with Mac OS X guidelines.

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Oct 18 19:18:21 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.
Oct 18 19:18:22: --- last message repeated 1 time ---

<redacted>

n’t be completed. (DAVErrorDomain error 2.)")
Oct 18 19:47:17 Bens27iMac Eudora[1157]: Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors.

Wouldn't worry about the "Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors" log, not sure about the (partial) "n’t be completed. (DAVErrorDomain error 2.)")" message.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 01:05 PM

View PostEvan Gross, on 18 October 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

Wouldn't worry about the "Warning: accessing obsolete X509Anchors" log…
Evan,

Regarding just that log entry, I had been finding batches of such entries--unrelated to Eudora, which I had abandoned, reluctantly, as a legacy client, and switched to Mail--and queried in another on-line forum about such warnings. (I'm running OS 10.6.8.) I got this advice, in case it's something you'd endorse Spell Catcher X users do if they get such warnings:

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What's causing the messages is that the "X509Anchors" keychain is, indeed, obsolete. It was replaced in Leopard with the new "System Roots" keychain.…

I'd start by:
Open Keychain Access
Verify that you have both "X509Anchors" and "System Roots"
Spot-check that "System Roots" contains (almost) everything from "X509Anchors"
Select "X509Anchors" from the sidebar
Select the menu item File -> Delete Keychain "X509Anchors"…

At that point I got a drop-down sheet asking whether I wanted to delete only the references or also the referenced files and as I wasn't sure which option to choose, I Cancelled at that point and took the alternative approach that had been suggested to me:

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try Edit -> Keychain List, and in the dialog tha pops up select "X509Anchors" and click on the [-] button in the bottom left corner to delete it.…

That immediately deleted the Keychain without any request for authorization (perhaps because I was logged in as admin) or a request for any other decision. My sidebar in Keychain Access now has just "login", "System", & "System Roots" Keychains. My "System Roots" has 175 items (versus the 104 items that had been in the "X509Anchors" Keychain), none have the circular icon badge with the white "x" on the red background, and Console no longer shows the batch of warnings I had been getting every minute.

David

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 09:12 PM

View Postdgkanter, on 19 October 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

Evan,

Regarding just that log entry, I had been finding batches of such entries--unrelated to Eudora, which I had abandoned, reluctantly, as a legacy client, and switched to Mail--and queried in another on-line forum about such warnings. (I'm running OS 10.6.8.) I got this advice, in case it's something you'd endorse Spell Catcher X users do if they get such warnings:



At that point I got a drop-down sheet asking whether I wanted to delete only the references or also the referenced files and as I wasn't sure which option to choose, I Cancelled at that point and took the alternative approach that had been suggested to me:



That immediately deleted the Keychain without any request for authorization (perhaps because I was logged in as admin) or a request for any other decision. My sidebar in Keychain Access now has just "login", "System", & "System Roots" Keychains. My "System Roots" has 175 items (versus the 104 items that had been in the "X509Anchors" Keychain), none have the circular icon badge with the white "x" on the red background, and Console no longer shows the batch of warnings I had been getting every minute.

David

I have no idea whether you created some sort of other problem doing that, but the message itself was truly harmless. Entourage generates the same Console output…

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:25 AM

Evan, thank you for your analysis of my log messages earlier in this thread; this is the first time I've checked in on the forums since you posted them.

Eudora has been suffering more problems on my iMac lately. It's reaching that tipping point again where I'm compelled to try to get by with some other email application. And I'm starting to experience the undesired input method switch thing (but that belongs in another thread).

Wouldn't be great if all computer makers and software developers took a 1-year hiatus from making new stuff and focused instead on making all their stuff currently out there work with everyone's stuff? (Apple, are you listening?)