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[Evan Gross]

rickaz, on Dec 29 2003, 04:42 PM, said:

I'm a long-time user since Thunder 7, and this is the first time I've ever had problems with Spell Catcher. I recently upgraded to Panther. I had no problems in Jaguar. Since upgrading to Panther, all interactivity has gone. I tried your suggestion of moving the components file to the new Library and restarted. That didn't work.

I searched for all Spell Catcher parts from SCX and trashed them, and reinstalled SCX 10.0.1 from scratch and restarted. Re-entered the serial number before activating. Still didn't work. Restarted again. Still no interactive correction from SCX.

I used Archive and Install when I upgraded to Panther, and to 10.3.2. I figured dumping all SCX parts and reinstalling completely would take care of it, but nothing has worked.

Any suggestions?

Sounds like you didn't turn Spell Catcher on in System Preferences, International, Input Menu pane. Sort by name to locate it easier.

[rickaz]

Sorry, but that wasn’t it. I had activated it after opening Spell Catcher and entering the serial number. I restarted and checked it in the International Preference Pane and it showed up with the box checked. Interactive correction was enabled in the SCX Preferences. When it didn’t work, I restarted again, and again...for a total of 3 restarts without any change in it working. I even toggled the Input menu for Spell Catcher off, quit the System Preferences, and toggled it back on again and restarted one of the times.

Weird thing, though, all of a sudden, today it’s working. I didn’t do anything different today other than the fact that the computer was turned off overnight, and started up this morning by PowerKey schedule. Yesterday the computer was restarted each time through the Apple menu Restart selection. I wouldn’t think that would have anything to do with it.

[rickaz]

I thought I’d try an experiment and see if I had the same problem on my other computer that has Panther on it (an iMac G4). Same experience. Installed from scratch. Restarted after install. Entered serial number. Checked SCX in Input Menu of Int’l Pref pane. Enabled Interactive correction in the SCX Preferences. Didn’t work.

I’ve used Shutdown and turned on the computer now 3 times with no change...interactive correction still doesn’t work. I’ve tried toggling SCX in the Input Menu, toggling Enable Interactive in the SCX Preferences. Still nothing. All that remains is for me to post on this forum. It started working on my other computer after I did that. Maybe it will start working tomorrow after being off overnight.

[Evan Gross]

rickaz, on Dec 30 2003, 05:18 PM, said:

I thought I’d try an experiment and see if I had the same problem on my other computer that has Panther on it (an iMac G4). Same experience. Installed from scratch. Restarted after install. Entered serial number. Checked SCX in Input Menu of Int’l Pref pane. Enabled Interactive correction in the SCX Preferences. Didn’t work.

I’ve used Shutdown and turned on the computer now 3 times with no change...interactive correction still doesn’t work. I’ve tried toggling SCX in the Input Menu, toggling Enable Interactive in the SCX Preferences. Still nothing. All that remains is for me to post on this forum. It started working on my other computer after I did that.  Maybe it will start working tomorrow after being off overnight.

Toggling Spell Catcher in the Input Menu tab isn't enough. You have to then go to the Input Menu itself and choose Spell Catcher.

See the QuickTime Movie in our FAQs for more info.

[rickaz]

Yep.

I have no idea how it got selected in the main menu since I didn’t physically do it. In every try previously, I had clicked on the menu and had gotten U.S., Show Character Palette, and
Show input mode palette as the only choices...no Spell Catcher. When I would click on the Show input mode palette, it would show a sort of truncated window with the US flag in it. It wouldn’t expand or anything. Thinking that this was part of the new changes in the Input menu, I finally gave up on it. Lo and behold, when it started working this morning, I hadn’t noticed that the flag had changed to the Spell Catcher icon.

It must have shown up after the clean install of SCX, but I hadn’t noticed because of my assumption that the disappearance of the SCX icon was part of the menu change.

Thanks very much for your help and quick responses.

[Paul Ingraham]

Hey, Evan. I want to give Rickaz some backup and moral support here. He's done a good job of describing the problem I've had consistently on both my Panther (10.3.2) machines, beta testing SCX 10.1b7. Both my installs are super clean and stable, and I am now excruciatingly familiar with all the various pieces that need to be in place for interactive checking to work -- so I have a high degree of confidence that it's not my systems, and I'm not overlooking relevant settings. Nevertheless, I am routinely experiencing failure of interactive checking, more or less as Rickaz has described.

It's a thing, no doubt.

Paul

[Evan Gross]

Paul Ingraham, on Dec 31 2003, 02:42 AM, said:

Hey, Evan.  I want to give Rickaz some backup and moral support here. He's done a good job of describing the problem I've had consistently on both my Panther (10.3.2) machines, beta testing SCX 10.1b7.  Both my installs are super clean and stable, and I am now excruciatingly familiar with all the various pieces that need to be in place for interactive checking to work -- so I have a high degree of confidence that it's not my systems, and I'm not overlooking relevant settings.  Nevertheless, I am routinely experiencing failure of interactive checking, more or less as Rickaz has described.

It's a thing, no doubt.

Paul

Yes, may be a thing, but my suspicion is a completely different thing.

His last message said he got everything working - just forgot to choose Spell Catcher from the input menu to activate interactive.

The problems in 10.1b7 are likely very different - there are some dumb bugs I introduced related to enabling/disabling menu items, and often you'll see items disabled when they shouldn't be. b8 should be coming shortly.

Is this an accurate description? Or am I still getting my reports confused?

[Paul Ingraham]

Evan Gross, on Dec 31 2003, 05:06 AM, said:

Yes, may be a thing, but my suspicion is a completely different thing.

His last message said he got everything working - just forgot to choose Spell Catcher from the input menu to activate interactive.

The problems in 10.1b7 are likely very different - there are some dumb bugs I introduced related to enabling/disabling menu items, and often you'll see items disabled when they shouldn't be. b8 should be coming shortly.

Is this an accurate description? Or am I still getting my reports confused?

Wups, my bad. Sorry, Evan, partially wasting your time there. I was reading so much and so fast last night that I missed Rickaz's last comment. His earlier comments interested me a lot simply because they sounded so much like some of the trouble I've had. Going back and reading more carefully, however, it sounds he really just couldn't get interactive features going at all, whereas my interactive features have been quite erratic. (And for others reading this, yes, this is likely to have more to do with beta testing issues than general SCX/Panther compatibility.)

Rickaz's case aside, my own report hopefully still has value, although I feel like a goob for jumping the gun and associating my troubles with Rickaz's.

Certainly I have noticed 10.1b7 having the trouble you described, re menu items -- in particular, the status of interactive checking in the menu does not always reflect how the application is actually functioning. So that's good news that b8 may whip that.

However, interactive checking itself has been moody, switching off seemingly at random and requiring varying degrees of experimentation to get it back. Sometimes de- and re-activating the input method is enough, sometimes a relaunch, sometimes logging out-in, and occasionally I've been forced to restart. The system itself remains stable throughout: it's just SC that goes sideways. And I have yet to figure out the triggering circumstances.

More by email shortly.

Paul

[Toby F.]

No problems!?
I installed SCX on my new PB a couple of weeks ago and its worked fine. It just occurred to me to check on updates, and to my surprise C&G is gone! I'm glad someone is maintaining it, but I'll stick with the old (SCX 10.0.1) version until these problems are cleared up. My biggest issue with PB so far has been convincing my cat that it isn't her new high-tech sleeping mat.

[paulc]

Toby, you will absolutely want to upgrade to 10.1 as soon as Evan releases it.